Carbike360 comprehensive BMW XM Plug-in Hybrid and Honda City SV Petrol MT comparison based on the price, specification, fuel efficiency, features and more.
BMW XM Plug-in Hybrid comes with a price of ₹ 2.60 Cr and Honda City SV Petrol MT is priced at ₹ 11.86 Lakh. BMW XM Plug-in Hybrid equipped with engine whereas Honda City SV Petrol MT has .
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Bmw Xm Vs Honda City
Select Car| Ex-Showroom Price | ₹2.60 Cr | ₹11.86 Lakh | ||
| EMI | ₹4,80,087 /month 8.5% for 5 years Calculate EMI | ₹21,900 /month 8.5% for 5 years Calculate EMI | ||
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| User Rating | 3.1 | 4.2 | ||
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Ex-Showroom Price
₹2.60 Cr
₹11.86 Lakh
EMI
₹4,80,087 /month
8.5% for 5 years
Calculate EMI₹21,900 /month
8.5% for 5 years
Calculate EMIBrochure
User Rating
3.1
4.2
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| Rear Suspension | Five-link axle with 'M' Adaptive Dampers | Torsion Beam with Coil Spring | ||
| Front Brake Type | Ventilated Disc | Ventilated Disc | ||
| Minimum Turning Radius(metres) | 6.25 | 5.3 | ||
| Steering Type | Power assisted (Electric) | Power assisted (Electric) | ||
| Rear Tyres | 315 / 40 R21 | 185 / 60 R15 | ||
| Rear Brake Type | Ventilated Disc | Drum | ||
| Front Suspension | Double-wishbone with 'M' Adaptive Dampers | McPherson Strut with Coil Spring | ||
| Front Tyres | 275 / 45 R21 | 185 / 60 R15 | ||
| Spare Wheel | Space Saver | Steel | ||
| Four Wheel Steering | - | |||
| Wheels | Alloy Wheels | Steel Rims |
Rear Suspension
Five-link axle with 'M' Adaptive Dampers
Torsion Beam with Coil Spring
Front Brake Type
Ventilated Disc
Ventilated Disc
Minimum Turning Radius (metres)
6.25
5.3
Steering Type
Power assisted (Electric)
Power assisted (Electric)
Rear Tyres
315 / 40 R21
185 / 60 R15
Rear Brake Type
Ventilated Disc
Drum
Front Suspension
Double-wishbone with 'M' Adaptive Dampers
McPherson Strut with Coil Spring
Front Tyres
275 / 45 R21
185 / 60 R15
Spare Wheel
Space Saver
Steel
Four Wheel Steering
-
Wheels
Alloy Wheels
Steel Rims
| Fuel Tank Capacity(litres) | 69 | 40 | ||
| Bootspace(litres) | 527 | 506 | ||
| Seating Capacity(Person) | 5 | 5 | ||
| Doors(Doors) | 5 | 4 | ||
| No of Rows(Rows) | 2 | 2 |
Fuel Tank Capacity (litres)
69
40
Bootspace (litres)
527
506
Seating Capacity (Person)
5
5
Doors (Doors)
5
4
No of Rows (Rows)
2
2
| Drivetrain | AWD | FWD | ||
| DC Fast Charging | ||||
| Range(km) | - | - | ||
| Transmission | Automatic - 8 Gears, Sport Mode | Manual - 6 Gears | ||
| Electric Motor | 1 Permanent magnet synchronous Placed At Integrated with Transmission | - | ||
| Max Torque (Nm@rpm) | 800 Nm @ 1600-5000 rpm | 145 Nm @ 4300 rpm | ||
| Mileage (ARAI)(kmpl) | 61.9 | 17.8 | ||
| Acceleration (0-100 kmph)(seconds) | 4.3 | - | ||
| Max Motor Performance | 194 bhp @ 7000 rpm, 280 Nm | - | ||
| Top Speed(kmph) | 249 | - | ||
| Others | Idle Start/Stop, Pure Electric Driving Mode | - | ||
| Electric Motor Assist | - | - | ||
| Engine Type | S68 Twin- turbocharged V8 Plug-in Hybrid | 1.5 i-VTEC with VTC | ||
| Emission Standard | BS6 Phase 2 | BS6 Phase 2 | ||
| Battery | 25.7 kWh, Lithium Ion, 317 Volt,Battery Placed Under Floor Pan | - | ||
| Battery Charging | - | - | ||
| Alternate Fuel | Electric | Not Applicable | ||
| AC Regular Charging | ||||
| Max Power (bhp@rpm) | 644 bhp @ 5400-7200 rpm | 119 bhp @ 6600 rpm | ||
| AC Fast Charging | ||||
| Fuel Type | Plug-in Hybrid (Electric + Petrol) | Petrol | ||
| Driving Range(km) | 4271 | 712 | ||
| Highway Mileage(kmpl) | - | - | ||
| Turbocharger / Supercharger | Twin Turbo | |||
| City Mileage(kmpl) | - | - | ||
| Engine | 4395 cc, 8 Cylinders In V Shape, 4 Valves/Cylinder, DOHC | 1498 cc, 4 Cylinders Inline, 4 Valves/Cylinder, DOHC | ||
| Performance on Alternate Fuel | - | - |
Drivetrain
AWD
FWD
DC Fast Charging
Range (km)
-
-
Transmission
Automatic - 8 Gears, Sport Mode
Manual - 6 Gears
Electric Motor
1 Permanent magnet synchronous Placed At Integrated with Transmission
-
Max Torque (Nm@rpm)
800 Nm @ 1600-5000 rpm
145 Nm @ 4300 rpm
Mileage (ARAI) (kmpl)
61.9
17.8
Acceleration (0-100 kmph) (seconds)
4.3
-
Max Motor Performance
194 bhp @ 7000 rpm, 280 Nm
-
Top Speed (kmph)
249
-
Others
Idle Start/Stop, Pure Electric Driving Mode
-
Electric Motor Assist
-
-
Engine Type
S68 Twin- turbocharged V8 Plug-in Hybrid
1.5 i-VTEC with VTC
Emission Standard
BS6 Phase 2
BS6 Phase 2
Battery
25.7 kWh, Lithium Ion, 317 Volt,Battery Placed Under Floor Pan
-
Battery Charging
-
-
Alternate Fuel
Electric
Not Applicable
AC Regular Charging
Max Power (bhp@rpm)
644 bhp @ 5400-7200 rpm
119 bhp @ 6600 rpm
AC Fast Charging
Fuel Type
Plug-in Hybrid (Electric + Petrol)
Petrol
Driving Range (km)
4271
712
Highway Mileage (kmpl)
-
-
Turbocharger / Supercharger
Twin Turbo
City Mileage (kmpl)
-
-
Engine
4395 cc, 8 Cylinders In V Shape, 4 Valves/Cylinder, DOHC
1498 cc, 4 Cylinders Inline, 4 Valves/Cylinder, DOHC
Performance on Alternate Fuel
-
-
| Ground Clearance(mm) | 220 | 165 | ||
| Kerb Weight(kg) | 2785 | - | ||
| Height(mm) | 1755 | 1489 | ||
| Width(mm) | 2210 | 1748 | ||
| Wheelbase(mm) | 3105 | 2600 | ||
| Length(mm) | 5110 | 4574 |
Ground Clearance (mm)
220
165
Kerb Weight (kg)
2785
-
Height (mm)
1755
1489
Width (mm)
2210
1748
Wheelbase (mm)
3105
2600
Length (mm)
5110
4574
| Warranty (In Kilometres) | Unlimited | Unlimited | ||
| Warranty (In Years) | 3 | 3 | ||
| Battery Warranty (In Kilometres) | 100000 | Not Applicable | ||
| Battery Warranty (In Years) | 6 | Not Applicable |
Warranty (In Kilometres)
Unlimited
Unlimited
Warranty (In Years)
3
3
Battery Warranty (In Kilometres)
100000
Not Applicable
Battery Warranty (In Years)
6
Not Applicable
| Engine Immobiliser | ||||
| Child Safety Lock | ||||
| Central Locking | Keyless | Keyless | ||
| Speed Sensing Door Lock |
Engine Immobiliser
Child Safety Lock
Central Locking
Keyless
Keyless
Speed Sensing Door Lock
| AM/FM Radio | ||||
| Touchscreen Size(inch) | 14.9 | 8 | ||
| AUX Compatibility | ||||
| Display Screen for Rear Passengers | ||||
| Head Unit Size | Not Applicable | Not Applicable | ||
| Integrated (in-dash) Music System | ||||
| iPod Compatibility | ||||
| Steering-mounted controls | ||||
| USB Compatibility | ||||
| Smart Connectivity | Android Auto (Yes), Apple Car Play (Yes) | Android Auto (Wired), Apple Car Play (Wired) | ||
| Apple CarPlay | Wired | |||
| Voice Command | ||||
| Internal Hard Drive | ||||
| Wireless Charger | ||||
| Bluetooth Compatibility | Phone & Audio Streaming | Phone & Audio Streaming | ||
| GPS Navigation System | ||||
| DVD Playback | ||||
| Android Auto | Wired | |||
| Gesture Control | ||||
| Speakers | 20 | 4 | ||
| Display | Touch-screen Display | Touch-screen Display |
AM/FM Radio
Touchscreen Size (inch)
14.9
8
AUX Compatibility
Display Screen for Rear Passengers
Head Unit Size
Not Applicable
Not Applicable
Integrated (in-dash) Music System
iPod Compatibility
Steering-mounted controls
USB Compatibility
Smart Connectivity
Android Auto (Yes), Apple Car Play (Yes)
Android Auto (Wired), Apple Car Play (Wired)
Apple CarPlay
Wired
Voice Command
Internal Hard Drive
Wireless Charger
Bluetooth Compatibility
Phone & Audio Streaming
Phone & Audio Streaming
GPS Navigation System
DVD Playback
Android Auto
Wired
Gesture Control
Speakers
20
4
Display
Touch-screen Display
Touch-screen Display
| Low Fuel Level Warning | ||||
| Average Fuel Consumption | ||||
| Distance to Empty | ||||
| Door Ajar Warning | ||||
| Instrument Cluster | Digital | Analogue - Digital | ||
| Adjustable Cluster Brightness | ||||
| Tachometer | Digital | Analogue | ||
| Gear Indicator | ||||
| Clock | Digital | Digital | ||
| Shift Indicator | ||||
| Trip Meter | Electronic 2 Trips | Electronic 2 Trips | ||
| Average Speed | ||||
| Instantaneous Consumption | ||||
| Heads Up Display (HUD) |
Low Fuel Level Warning
Average Fuel Consumption
Distance to Empty
Door Ajar Warning
Instrument Cluster
Digital
Analogue - Digital
Adjustable Cluster Brightness
Tachometer
Digital
Analogue
Gear Indicator
Clock
Digital
Digital
Shift Indicator
Trip Meter
Electronic 2 Trips
Electronic 2 Trips
Average Speed
Instantaneous Consumption
Heads Up Display (HUD)
| Roof-mounted Antenna | ||||
| Chrome Finish Exhaust Pipe | ||||
| Body-coloured Bumpers | ||||
| Body Kit | Cladding - Black/Grey | |||
| Sunroof / Moonroof | ||||
| Rub-strips |
Roof-mounted Antenna
Chrome Finish Exhaust Pipe
Body-coloured Bumpers
Body Kit
Cladding - Black/Grey
Sunroof / Moonroof
Rub-strips
| Ventilated Seat Type | Heated and cooled | |||
| Seat Upholstery | Leather + Alcantara | Fabric | ||
| Headrests | Front & Rear | Front & Rear | ||
| Folding Rear Seat | Full | |||
| Split Third Row Seat | ||||
| Ventilated Seats | Front only | |||
| Interior Colours | Deep Lagoon / Walknappa Vintage Coffee , Silverstone / Walknappa Vintage Coffee, Sakhir Orange / Walknappa Vintage Coffee , Black / Walknappa Vintage Coffee | Beige & Black | ||
| Massage Seats | ||||
| Interiors | Dual Tone | Dual Tone | ||
| Leather-wrapped Gear Knob | ||||
| Split Rear Seat | 40:20:40 split | |||
| Rear Passenger Seat Type | Bench | Bench | ||
| Front Seatback Pockets | ||||
| Third Row Seat Type | ||||
| Leather-wrapped Steering Wheel | ||||
| Front Passenger Seat Adjustment | 16 way electrically adjustable with 3 memory presets (seat: forward / back, backrest tilt: forward / back, seat height: up / down, lumbar: up / down, lumbar: forward / back, seat base angle: up / down, extended thigh support: forward / back, backrest bolsters: in / out) + 2 way manually adjustable (headrest: up / down) | 6 way manually adjustable (seat forward / back, backrest tilt forward / back, headrest up / down) | ||
| Driver Seat Adjustment | 16 way electrically adjustable with 3 memory presets (seat: forward / back, backrest tilt: forward / back, seat height: up / down, lumbar: up / down, lumbar: forward / back, seat base angle: up / down, extended thigh support: forward / back, backrest bolsters: in / out) + 2 way manually adjustable (headrest: up / down) | 8 way manually adjustable (seat forward / back, backrest tilt forward / back, headrest up / down, seat height up / down) | ||
| Rear Row Seat Adjustment | 2 way manually adjustable (headrest up / down) | 2 way manually adjustable (headrest up / down) | ||
| Rear Armrest | With Cup Holder | With Cup Holder | ||
| Driver Armrest |
Ventilated Seat Type
Heated and cooled
Seat Upholstery
Leather + Alcantara
Fabric
Headrests
Front & Rear
Front & Rear
Folding Rear Seat
Full
Split Third Row Seat
Ventilated Seats
Front only
Interior Colours
Deep Lagoon / Walknappa Vintage Coffee , Silverstone / Walknappa Vintage Coffee, Sakhir Orange / Walknappa Vintage Coffee , Black / Walknappa Vintage Coffee
Beige & Black
Massage Seats
Interiors
Dual Tone
Dual Tone
Leather-wrapped Gear Knob
Split Rear Seat
40:20:40 split
Rear Passenger Seat Type
Bench
Bench
Front Seatback Pockets
Third Row Seat Type
Leather-wrapped Steering Wheel
Front Passenger Seat Adjustment
16 way electrically adjustable with 3 memory presets (seat: forward / back, backrest tilt: forward / back, seat height: up / down, lumbar: up / down, lumbar: forward / back, seat base angle: up / down, extended thigh support: forward / back, backrest bolsters: in / out) + 2 way manually adjustable (headrest: up / down)
6 way manually adjustable (seat forward / back, backrest tilt forward / back, headrest up / down)
Driver Seat Adjustment
16 way electrically adjustable with 3 memory presets (seat: forward / back, backrest tilt: forward / back, seat height: up / down, lumbar: up / down, lumbar: forward / back, seat base angle: up / down, extended thigh support: forward / back, backrest bolsters: in / out) + 2 way manually adjustable (headrest: up / down)
8 way manually adjustable (seat forward / back, backrest tilt forward / back, headrest up / down, seat height up / down)
Rear Row Seat Adjustment
2 way manually adjustable (headrest up / down)
2 way manually adjustable (headrest up / down)
Rear Armrest
With Cup Holder
With Cup Holder
Driver Armrest
| Ride Height Adjustment | ||||
| Hill Hold Control | ||||
| Hill Descent Control | ||||
| Traction Control System (TC/TCS) | ||||
| Electronic Stability Program (ESP) | ||||
| Brake Assist (BA) | ||||
| Differential Lock | Electronic | |||
| Anti-Lock Braking System (ABS) | ||||
| Four-Wheel-Drive | Torque-On-Demand | |||
| Electronic Brake-force Distribution (EBD) | ||||
| Limited Slip Differential (LSD) |
Ride Height Adjustment
Hill Hold Control
Hill Descent Control
Traction Control System (TC/TCS)
Electronic Stability Program (ESP)
Brake Assist (BA)
Differential Lock
Electronic
Anti-Lock Braking System (ABS)
Four-Wheel-Drive
Torque-On-Demand
Electronic Brake-force Distribution (EBD)
Limited Slip Differential (LSD)
| Seat Belt Warning | ||||
| High-beam Assist | ||||
| Lane Departure Warning | Optional | |||
| Rear Middle Three Point seatbelt | ||||
| NCAP Rating | Not Tested | 5 Star (ASEAN NCAP) | ||
| Airbags | 6 Airbags (Driver, Front Passenger, 2 Curtain, Driver Side, Front Passenger Side) | 4 Airbags (Driver, Front Passenger, Driver Side, Front Passenger Side) | ||
| Overspeed Warning | 1 beep over 80kmph, Continuous beeps over 120kmph | 1 beep over 80kmph, Continuous beeps over 120kmph | ||
| Child Seat Anchor Points | ||||
| Puncture Repair Kit | ||||
| Forward Collision Warning (FCW) | Optional | |||
| Lane Departure Prevention | Optional | |||
| Rear Middle Head Rest | ||||
| Blind Spot Detection | ||||
| Tyre Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS) | ||||
| Automatic Emergency Braking (AEB) | Optional | |||
| Rear Cross-traffic Assist | Optional | |||
| Emergency Brake Light Flashing |
Seat Belt Warning
High-beam Assist
Lane Departure Warning
Optional
Rear Middle Three Point seatbelt
NCAP Rating
Not Tested
5 Star (ASEAN NCAP)
Airbags
6 Airbags (Driver, Front Passenger, 2 Curtain, Driver Side, Front Passenger Side)
4 Airbags (Driver, Front Passenger, Driver Side, Front Passenger Side)
Overspeed Warning
1 beep over 80kmph, Continuous beeps over 120kmph
1 beep over 80kmph, Continuous beeps over 120kmph
Child Seat Anchor Points
Puncture Repair Kit
Forward Collision Warning (FCW)
Optional
Lane Departure Prevention
Optional
Rear Middle Head Rest
Blind Spot Detection
Tyre Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS)
Automatic Emergency Braking (AEB)
Optional
Rear Cross-traffic Assist
Optional
Emergency Brake Light Flashing
| Rear Windshield Blind | ||||
| Soft-close Door | ||||
| One Touch Up | All | Driver | ||
| Turn Indicators on ORVMs | ||||
| Rear Wiper | ||||
| Exterior Door Handles | Dark Chrome | Body Coloured | ||
| Door Pockets | Front & Rear | Front & Rear | ||
| One Touch Down | All | Driver | ||
| Adjustable ORVMs | Electrically Adjustable & Retractable | Electrically Adjustable & Retractable | ||
| Power Windows | Front & Rear | Front & Rear | ||
| Rear Defogger | ||||
| Bootlid Opener | Electric Opening and Closing | Electric Tailgate Release | ||
| Rain-sensing Wipers | ||||
| ORVM Colour | Piano Black | Body Coloured | ||
| Interior Door Handles | Silver | Painted | ||
| Side Window Blinds | ||||
| Scuff Plates | Illuminated |
Rear Windshield Blind
Soft-close Door
One Touch Up
All
Driver
Turn Indicators on ORVMs
Rear Wiper
Exterior Door Handles
Dark Chrome
Body Coloured
Door Pockets
Front & Rear
Front & Rear
One Touch Down
All
Driver
Adjustable ORVMs
Electrically Adjustable & Retractable
Electrically Adjustable & Retractable
Power Windows
Front & Rear
Front & Rear
Rear Defogger
Bootlid Opener
Electric Opening and Closing
Electric Tailgate Release
Rain-sensing Wipers
ORVM Colour
Piano Black
Body Coloured
Interior Door Handles
Silver
Painted
Side Window Blinds
Scuff Plates
Illuminated
| Light on Vanity Mirrors | Driver & Co-Driver | |||
| Ambient Interior Lighting | ||||
| Taillights | LED | LED | ||
| Cornering Headlights | Active | |||
| Headlight Height Adjuster | ||||
| Cabin Lamps | Front and Rear | Front | ||
| Headlights | LED | Halogen Projector | ||
| Daytime Running Lights | LED | LED | ||
| Puddle Lamps | ||||
| Ambient Interior Count | 64 | - | ||
| Fog Lights | - | - | ||
| Automatic Headlamps | ||||
| Follow Me Home Headlamps | ||||
| Rear Reading Lamp | Both Sides | |||
| Glovebox Lamp |
Light on Vanity Mirrors
Driver & Co-Driver
Ambient Interior Lighting
Taillights
LED
LED
Cornering Headlights
Active
Headlight Height Adjuster
Cabin Lamps
Front and Rear
Front
Headlights
LED
Halogen Projector
Daytime Running Lights
LED
LED
Puddle Lamps
Ambient Interior Count
64
-
Fog Lights
-
-
Automatic Headlamps
Follow Me Home Headlamps
Rear Reading Lamp
Both Sides
Glovebox Lamp
| 12V Power Outlets | 3 | |||
| Rear AC | Two Zones, Vents Behind Front Armrest, Individual Fan Speed Controls | Blower, Vents Behind Front Armrest | ||
| Parking Sensors | Front & Rear | Rear | ||
| Cruise Control | ||||
| Headlight and Ignition On Reminder | ||||
| Air Conditioner | Yes (Automatic Four Zone) | Yes (Automatic Climate Control) | ||
| Steering Adjustment | Electric Tilt & Telescopic | Tilt & Telescopic | ||
| Heated/Cooled Cup Holders | ||||
| Vanity Mirrors on Sun Visors | Driver & Co-Driver | Driver & Co-Driver | ||
| Parking Assist | 360 Degree Camera | Reverse Camera with Guidance | ||
| Third Row AC Zone | - | |||
| Anti-glare Mirrors | Electronic - All | Manual - Internal Only | ||
| Keyless Start/ Button Start | ||||
| Front AC | Two Zones, Individual Fan Speed Controls | Single Zone, Common Fan Speed Control | ||
| Heater | ||||
| Electronic Parking Brake | Yes with Auto Hold | |||
| Air Purifier | ||||
| Cabin Boot Access |
12V Power Outlets
3
Rear AC
Two Zones, Vents Behind Front Armrest, Individual Fan Speed Controls
Blower, Vents Behind Front Armrest
Parking Sensors
Front & Rear
Rear
Cruise Control
Headlight and Ignition On Reminder
Air Conditioner
Yes (Automatic Four Zone)
Yes (Automatic Climate Control)
Steering Adjustment
Electric Tilt & Telescopic
Tilt & Telescopic
Heated/Cooled Cup Holders
Vanity Mirrors on Sun Visors
Driver & Co-Driver
Driver & Co-Driver
Parking Assist
360 Degree Camera
Reverse Camera with Guidance
Third Row AC Zone
-
Anti-glare Mirrors
Electronic - All
Manual - Internal Only
Keyless Start/ Button Start
Front AC
Two Zones, Individual Fan Speed Controls
Single Zone, Common Fan Speed Control
Heater
Electronic Parking Brake
Yes with Auto Hold
Air Purifier
Cabin Boot Access
| Driver Armrest Storage | ||||
| Third Row Cup Holders | ||||
| Sunglass Holder | ||||
| Cup Holders | Front & Rear | Front & Rear | ||
| Cooled Glovebox |
Driver Armrest Storage
Third Row Cup Holders
Sunglass Holder
Cup Holders
Front & Rear
Front & Rear
Cooled Glovebox
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Pros And Cons
Honda City
- iVTEC engine is fun to drive
- Level 1 ADAS makes it even more safer
- ADAS available from 2nd base variant, making it the most affordable car in India with ADAS
- Interiors feel more plush, premium with good materials, fit & finish
- Lane watch camera adds to the convenient
- Proximity lock/unlock is a unique & very convenient feature
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